. This study is about finding all the know Gilpins of the world, collecting and correlating data, making it available at one source for free to all researchers. Why am I doing this? When I started looking for my Father's Gilpin lineage. I became brickwalled at my great grandfather John G. Gilpin, born 1828 in Ohio. I searched for years gathering and setting aside bundles of references to Gilpins. Gilpins from Ireland Gilpins from Scotland Gilpins from England and Gilpins from France and Holland-Netherlands. I was like others under the assumption that all Gilpins were related. How could you have a surname like Gilpin and not be related. In 2005 I started a Y-DNA study of Gilpins, you see I still could not locate any information on John G Gilpin's parents. So, I thought maybe DNA would prove who he was related to and thus break down that wall of bricks, it would at least give me a direction in which to look. But after the first set of Gilpin males tested, three of them, unknown relationship, we found that one of the males G3, was not related to the other two G1 and G2 and that those two were related, but that isn't unusual non-parental events happen. So I went on gathering men to test. In 2011, I found a Gilpin to test from a male Gilpin who lived next door to my Great Grandfather John G. Gilpin, we had assumed that this man Thomas Gilpin almost double John's age was his father but nothing to prove it. The Y-DNA STR test was a perfect match. Although, there is nothing actually stating Thomas is my Great Great Grandfather, the preponderance of bits and pieces of evidence along with the Y-DNA positive relationship, allows me to place Thomas as John G's father. At present February 2013, we have 20 Gilpin men tested out of that there are 5 different lineages of Gilpins. One comparison we know is a Non-parental event, we just don't know which male is the result of the non-parental event. I use the term non-parental event, but you may not know its meaning. First a non-parental event can happen anytime from the first person to assume the name of Gilpin to you living today. What is it, Momma was unfaithful? Normally no... 99.9 percent of the time when the culprit can be found it is an adoption of some kind. The neighbors die and you take in the children, some times it is that a person wanted to change their identity, or a legal adoption no one knew of or even adopting your sister's child.
While searching for the origin of the Gilpin surname I found four different origins for "OUR" surname. 1. Irish - MacGillifin Anglicized to Gilfin, Gilpin, Gill - MacGillifin is an ancient Irish surname.
For information on this particular surname see: The old Irish name for Gilpin was
MacGillifin. These lists from "Irish Pedigrees" by
John O'Hart, were copied by a poor typist, so there
may be some typos. Pat Traynor 12/96 ANCIENT IRISH SURNAMES As many of the ancient Irish sirnames
are not recorded in O'Clery's or in MacFirbis's
Genealogies, or in the Linea Antiqua, or in the Betham
Genealogical Collections, we have collected from "The
Topographical Poems of O'Dugan and O'Heerin," "The
Tribes and Customs of Hy-Fiachra," and other works
published by the Celtic and Archeological Societies in
Ireland, the following Irish family names, and the
modern anglicised forms which they assumed; ~~~~~ Families of the Hy-Fiachrach
2. Norman (?) - deGylpyn includes Gilpin, Gilpinge, Gilpen - de Guylpyn a Surname of Norman Origin I have not found this surname except in relationship with the "Minstrals of Wandemere" poem some Gilpins use to infer this lineage was Norman and connected in some way to William I King of England. Using surname information de means of and Guylpyn should be the name of a place in Normandy. 3. Norman (?) - Galpin -
Email in the Galpin surname board at rootsweb.com, Yes
I heard that the Galpin's went to England with William
the Conquerer in 1066. There is a book called the
Galpin family of Staffordshire and Dorset, that many
Galpin researchers have read. Susposedly with William
I's wife was a Johannes de Galpenberg, who worked in
her household. Galpenberg was also a village, a
commune of Belgium in the Province of East Flanders, a
department of Ophasselt. There is also a river and a
village of Gulpen in the Duchy of Limbourg. The name
Galpin is now more common in France than in England..
Apparently, so it is said, all Galpins in England are
descended from Johannes. If you go to the website
familysearch.org and go to a search page on their
catalogue and put in Galpin you will get the details
of the book. Subject: Matilda, Countess of Flanders, Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 14:15:46 GMT; Is there a list of Matilda's staff that served with her when she moved to Normandy and subsequently into England with William the Conqueror? My surname is derived from Gapenberg (Galpenberg) a small village in East Flanders where Johanne de Gapenberg reportedly lived before serving for Matilda. The source of my info is a Galpin family ancestry book by George Luck Galpin without footnotes for this clue. However, if it existed for the author early this century, I hope someone still knows how to find it. btw, Gapenberg, Flanders, still exists today
Link to information on King Kenneth MacAlpin: http://members.aol.com/skyelander/alpin.html Some Variant Spellings: Albain, Albanach, Albin, Ailpein, Allphin, Alpin, Alpine, Alpyn, Alpynsone, Calpin, Calpine, Culpen, Elphin, Galpin, Galpine, Gilpin, Halpin, Halpine, MacAilpein, MacAlipine, MacAlpan, MacAlpane, MacAlpeine, MacAlpeinne, MacAlpen, MacAlphine, MacAlpin, MacAlpie, MacAlpin, MacAlpy, MacAlpye, MacAlpyn, MacAlpyne, MacApline, MacCalpin, MacCalpine, MacCapie, MacCappie, MacCappin, MacCappine, MacCappy, MacCapy, MacCarpin, MacColpin, MacColpine, MacCoplan, MacCoplin, MacCoppin, MacCoppine, MacCorpin, MacCorpine, Mackalpe, MacKalpin, Makalpe, Makcalpy, Makcalpyn, Malcalpyn, M’Alpen, M’Alpin, M’Alpine, M’Alpyn, McAlpain, McAlpan, McAlpane, McAlpe, McAlpen, McAlphin, McAlphine, McAlpie, McAlpien, McAlpil, McAlpin, McAlpine, McAlpion, McAlpon, McAlpy, McAlpyn, M’Calpin, M’Calppin, M’Calpy, M’Calpyne, M’Cappe, M’Cavpy, McCalpie, McCalpin, McCalpy, McCapen, McCawpyn, McCulpen, McKelpin, M’Kalpie, MkKalpy.
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In an email from a Friend: Also I just saw
on the webpage connection to the MacAlpin website that "Gilpin" was a variant spelling. That does make
sense, because the Boar was/is an ancient emblem of
the McAlpin clan and Kings since before the union of
Scots & Picts by King Kenneth MacAlpin. If
any English Herald were to see the "Boar", the first
visual response would be the connection to the
MacAlpine lineage. The MacAlpine's were most
certainly Scots. The MacAlpine's were the first
line of the Kings of Scotlands. There would not
be any connection to the Norman's. I suggest you
compare DNA with some MacAlpine's to see if there is
any connecition.
(From the same person). I also think it's important to note the nick name of Richard "The Rider". The term "Rider" would mean that he was active in border forays between Scottish & English Borderers. Only a few of the clans of Scotland are known as "Riding Clans", the Scotts being one of the "Riding Clans". I highly suggest you read "Steele Bonnets" by George McDonald-Frazier. It will give you an excellent idea of what it was like to live there. And that's why it's makes sense to call people that live there "Borderers" because their politics & loyalties could not always be linked to the side of the border they lived on, or even with the their own kings. That in some sense, Borderers were a small collection of English & Scottish who had to fend for themselves through governmental support & indifference at different times.
Can you Help?
You most certainly can help. You can provide data on Gilpin families, Obits, Newspaper Articles, School records, Tax Records anything that is used normally for genealogy will be needed here too. I will list your contact data for any information donated to the website, if you want. If you want to DNA test to see what grouping of Gilpins you connect with I prefer FamilyTreeDNA but I accept Y-STR results from any company testing the Y chromosome, STR Markers.
Good luck finding your Gilpin connection |
Nelda Lorraine Percival nee Gilpin
Feb 2013
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the wise
1. Never take a genealogy file or
parts of it without asking the researcher, if it has items
for your family then likely the researcher is also a
relative.
Ask first.
2. Just because it is on line does not make it fact,
in fact just because it has source notes does not make the
source notes correct. Always go to the source and check that
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